"News 1+1"-Controlling for-profit awards by law!
Commentator Bai Yansong:
Hello viewers, welcome to the live news 1+1.
If you go to a hospital to see a doctor, there is a very big sign hanging at the door of this hospital. This sign says, "Top Ten People in China are Satisfied and Relieved in Hospitals". Do you feel particularly practical? You feel half better before you get into the hospital. But if I tell you that this brand is bought for tens of thousands of dollars, and you can buy it back as long as you pay the money, do you feel particularly blocked and have not yet entered the hospital? I feel that my minor illness is heavier. Two days ago, "Focus Interview" broadcast such a program, an appraisal meeting, which can send out more than 300 such brands, and the profit is less than 10 million at once. Here, a series of question marks are put forward. For example, what should we think of paying for this brand of hospital? In particular, many retired leading cadres come to the platform for such appraisal. How should they regulate their acupoint-walking behavior? Today we will pay attention to it together.
Commentary:
Chinese Hospital Management Association, a month ago, organized the grand 2013 China Hospital Management Academic Annual Conference in a five-star hotel, but after being exposed by the media, the website of this association has been unable to log in. A statement issued by the National Commission for Discipline Inspection said that they had no business guidance relationship with the Chinese Hospital Management Association, and the association regarded the medals of the law as illegal and invalid. Then how can this invalid and illegal appraisal be staged openly?
Reporter:
Is it still necessary to go through the selection of ordinary people or something?
Person in charge of the organizer:
It’s almost enough. If you say you are advanced, you are advanced. If you say you are excellent, you are excellent. On behalf of ourselves, we think he is excellent, and that’s it.
Commentary:
In the activities organized by the Chinese Hospital Management Association, there is no need to compare, just pay according to the clearly marked price.
Voice source: staff of China Hospital Management Association.
People’s satisfaction hospitals, civilized demonstration hospitals and high-quality service demonstration hospitals are 22,000 each, and the top ten hospitals in China, the top ten civilized service demonstration hospitals, the top ten honest brand hospitals and the top ten people’s demonstration hospitals are 28,000 each.
Commentary:
At this award ceremony, nearly 300 organizations and individuals from all over the country won awards. As long as you participate, as long as you pay, there will be awards.
Participants:
We are not from the hospital, but from the enterprise.
Participants:
I’m a drug addict.
Reporter:
What award did you win?
Participants:
Top 100 brand restaurants recently.
Reporter:
I see you won a lot of prizes.
Commentary:
The list shows that many award-winning so-called people’s hospitals are all county-level hospitals, and the titles of the awards are varied.
Reporter:
If I want to pay more, can you change it for us?
The organizer is responsible for:
Sure, ask him for the first place next time.
Participants:
Just give more money, and the people won the first place in word of mouth.
Commentary:
What’s even more outrageous is that the reporter followed a hospital to participate in the competition, so as to miss the deadline for registration. Unexpectedly, after registration, he received the award confirmation letter from the Chinese Hospital Management Association only every other day, saying that he was rated as "the top ten hospitals in China where people are satisfied and assured". However, if he wants to get the trophies, medals and certificates, he must pay a fee of 28,000 yuan. It is such a competition, and the live speeches are also made by some heavyweights.
Reporter:
Where are you an expert?
Participants:
I’m from the Ministry of Health.
Reporter:
You are experts, aren’t you?
Participants:
We are leaders.
Reporter:
Where are you from?
Participants:
We are from the Food and Drug Administration.
Commentary:
The conference guide issued by the Chinese Hospital Management Association shows that the honorary leaders of the association have all held leadership positions in relevant competent departments, which is called former leaders.
Person in charge of the organizer:
Former leaders all need fees, and whoever is present will be given some money.
Commentary:
For the winners, spending money can not only buy the reputation of a national brand, but also attract these heavyweights who are present at the scene. It is an honor for them to stand with these former leaders in the industry and take a group photo. Are these heavyweight guests familiar with the operation of the appraisal, and what possible interest relationship exists behind it? This is the biggest question left to the public by the exposed Chinese Hospital Management Association. The National Commission for Discipline Inspection said that the situation involving health and family planning system personnel in the investigation should also be seriously investigated.
Bai Yansong:
Is this society formal? Is this appraisal appropriate? Can retired leading cadres attend such activities? A series of question marks, in fact, after this matter came out, everyone asked again. First of all, let’s pay attention to this society. You can see that this society introduces itself on its own website: it is a corporate body established according to law, and it accepts the business guidance of the National Health Planning Commission and the supervision and management of the Ministry of Civil Affairs. It is the management organization of the hospital industry in China. You see, what is said depends on the general, but just after the program was broadcast, the next day, the National Health and Family Planning Commission issued a relevant statement, in which it was emphasized that the Chinese Hospital Management Association is not the social organization in charge of our business, and there is no business guidance relationship between the National Health and Family Planning Commission and the Chinese Hospital Management Association. Our director went to check the relevant websites of the Ministry of Civil Affairs and found that it had nothing to do with it, so the introduction of himself on its own website was false at least in this field. Then it emphasizes that it is a non-profit mass organization, but it is clear that every brand has to collect money, 28 thousand, more than 20 thousand and so on. Then let’s look at the relevant regulations of the state. On October 27th, 2010, the General Office of the Central Committee of the CPC and the General Office of the State Council clearly emphasized that the organizer should bear all the expenses of the appraisal and commendation projects, and should not charge the participating units and individuals in any situation. This is the relevant method issued by the General Offices of the General Office of the Central Committee of the CPC and the State Council in 2010, so this institute has done this.It doesn’t match this either. But how long have we been doing this thing? This time, it has issued 321 batches of medals, and the estimated income is close to 10 million. Moreover, it has been held twice a year for four or five years. How should we define this matter and whether we should face it with a legal spirit? Next, we will connect with Wang Yukai, a professor at the National School of Administration. Hello, Professor Wang.
Professor Wang Yukai of National School of Administration:
Hello.
Bai Yansong:
How do you define this behavior of this society?
Wang Yukai:
First of all, our country has a strict definition of this corporate body, including our four corporate bodies, corporate bodies, government bodies, public institutions and corporate bodies. Supposedly, the Chinese Hospital Management Association just introduced should belong to the category of corporate in theory, but it has not been registered with the competent department of the health department or registered with the civil affairs department. The Health Planning Commission has publicly said that it does not belong to the social organization under its control, and this context can not be found in the civil affairs department. It can be said that this is a cottage, which means that it is an illegal organization. So if it is an illegal organization, it
Bai Yansong:
But Professor Wang, we have to go back to the legal level. If we use the legal level, you said that this organization is already illegal, but its turnover is large enough. This time, the award is 10 million less, and it has been held twice a day for the past four or five years. How can we define its behavior by law?
Wang Yukai:
If the organization is illegal after further investigation, then its behavior constitutes fraud. Because it has not been registered with the health department or the civil affairs department, and he has no legal basis, this kind of award-winning activity itself constitutes a serious fraud. In a certain sense, I think this kind of fraud has violated the law, that is to say, it is not a fault, but a crime. Therefore, in a legal sense, it is not simply investigated by a health planning commission department, nor is it.
Bai Yansong:
I understand what you mean, that is, the next development direction of this matter is not to condemn it and the relevant departments should investigate it, but to involve the judicial department, right?
Wang Yukai:
Right.
Bai Yansong:
Finally, what do you think of the problem involved in this paragraph? At the awarding ceremony, all the former leaders of the department also read this related introduction. How do you define the behaviors of these former leading cadres after retirement?
Wang Yukai:
For retired leading cadres and state officials, the national policy is obvious. For example, generally speaking, our state officials, including leading cadres, cannot engage in profitable activities in their former fields within three years after retirement. This is very clear in our country’s Civil Service Law. Then if it is a non-profit organization, it is ok for some leaders to participate in some non-profit social welfare undertakings to do good deeds. If it is not allowed to participate in profit-making activities within three years, it will violate the policy. However, when I see this problem, his situation is not exactly the same. He said that the former leader participated in some activities in an organization without legal qualifications, and the previous report also saw that he was paid for participating in activities. In this case, I think the actions of this leader should also be said to be deviated.
Bai Yansong:
Ok. Next, we should continue to pay attention to this problem. In fact, there are several possibilities for leading cadres to attend such an activity, especially illegal organizations. The first possibility is human relations. The second is being fooled by others, who are completely unaware of it. They are an illegal organization. The third is to seek benefits and complete a kind of acupuncture driven by interests. Then how can we use the system to stop retired leading cadres from going to acupuncture? Next, we will continue to pay attention.
Commentary:
Today, the reporter found that the website of the Chinese Hospital Management Association has been unable to log in directly, but we can still get a glimpse of the website of this derailed society through the snapshot of the webpage. News center, laws and regulations, information release, document announcement, at first glance, the homepage of this association is really rich in content and quite formal, but clicking on the column about the society of enterprises is even more famous. It claims to be all kinds of medical institutions at all levels that have obtained professional licenses of medical institutions according to law, excluding rural health centers, health clinics and infirmary. It is a national, industrial and non-profit mass organization formed voluntarily and is a corporate legal person established according to law. The Chinese Hospital Management Association accepts the professional guidance of the National Health Planning Commission and the supervision and management of the Ministry of Civil Affairs, and claims to accept the guidance and supervision of the two major government agencies, which is like a derailment association? The statement of the National Health Planning Commission has made us understand that behind the facade are false organizations and violations. From the page snapshot, we can see that the 2014 China Hospital Outstanding Dean and Outstanding Contribution Award was held by the Chinese Hospital Management Society, and the notice that the Boao Forum 2014 China International Medical and Health Innovation Summit will be held in Hainan in April was also scrolled in the most prominent position on the website. Imagine that if it were not exposed by the media, the derailment activity of this derailment society would be staged in Hainan in April. After the media exposure, not only the website of the Chinese Hospital Management Association could not be directly logged in, but many media reporters visited the derailed society according to the office address given on the website, and they could not find any trace at all.
"Beijing Youth Daily" reporter Li Zewei:
Its address in official website is No.100 Dayouzhuang, but the No.100 found on the map is not a specific building. After going there, it is probably on the road to the south of the Central Party School, and there are many buildings nearby, all of which are within the scope of No.100, and they are not listed, so it is difficult for you to find out where it is.
Commentary:
Of course, visiting reporters also gives another possibility.
Li Zewei:
I didn’t find it. I think there is also a reason, that is, it may be hiding.
Commentary:
However, the derailment society charged fees in violation of regulations, but it suffered from the Chinese Hospital Association, a formal association under the National Commission for Discipline Inspection, because their former name was "China Hospital Management Association". But in 2006, they were officially renamed as "China Hospital Association". The name of the Chinese Hospital Management Association is also invalid. However, this invalid name has been used by some impostors to collect money and make money. Although the Chinese Hospital Management Association discovered this deviant society several years ago and reported the situation to the relevant departments last year, it has not been followed so far. What the Chinese Hospital Association can do seems to be to prove its innocence on its official website.
Bai Yansong:
In the first short film of today’s program, you can see that this 302 hospital is such a sign. Many people may mistakenly think that the 302 hospital has also bought such a brand. Actually, it is not. It has participated in exposing and reporting, so this bad thing can be revealed in this way. Therefore, we should especially thank the 302 hospital. If there are more hospitals with such kindness, we will have more peace of mind. But we have to talk about it, and there are still quite a few hospitals willing to spend money to buy such brands. Next, we will connect with an expert, who is Professor Ling Feng, the famous neurosurgeon and director of the Ethics Construction Committee of the China Deliberative Society. Hello, Professor Ling Feng.
Ling Feng, Director of Moral Construction Committee of Chinese Medical Doctor Association:
Hello, Yansong.
Bai Yansong:
What do you think of it? There are really many hospitals that spend tens of thousands of dollars to sell such a brand, and he himself knows that this brand doesn’t rely on popularity at all.
Ling Feng:
In fact, I think it is not reliable for the hospital to buy this brand, but he took advantage of the kindness of the people, the integrity of the pursuit of kindness, and this belief, which is a moral overrun. Therefore, the people all hope to go to hospitals that are at ease, excellent hospitals and excellent hospitals. He feels that he will be at ease, but the facts are not the same. Therefore, these units and these personnel are overspending the people’s desire for kindness. When this kindness and good wishes and integrity are constantly overspent, is there any integrity in our society? If there is no honesty in society, where is our safety plated? This is a very terrible thing?
Bai Yansong:
Professor Ling Feng, I don’t know if you have received such invitations from time to time. What do you think? Some of them used to be in leadership positions, but they still serve as platforms for such activities after retirement?
Ling Feng:
I am not a cadre, so we don’t have the authority, the authority of a leading organization, so I never accepted the opportunity to award prizes to others in the past, but I think these retired leading cadres may be innocent, or they may have been cheated. Since so many ordinary people can be cheated, they may also be in the range of being cheated.
Bai Yansong:
But from your own point of view, for example, remind many people what kind of vision and thinking to use to define such things, and don’t be fooled.
Ling Feng:
Yes, I think this is particularly important. No matter whether you are an innocent or ignorant leading cadre, at least you have to deal with such a thing. There is a most obvious problem in it, whether you know its ins and outs or not, but this award is paid for, which is definitely wrong. Therefore, this kind of pursuit of fame and reputation is too commercial, and it is put on the scale of social integrity in commercial terms. This is definitely wrong, so at this point, I have accepted many invitations to award prizes, that is, I won the prize, telling you what prize has been awarded, as long as you pay how much money, as long as I see that it is paid, I know that this is not normal.
Bai Yansong:
Thank you very much, Professor Ling Feng, for your explanation. Next, we should continue to pay attention to how to make many retired leading cadres, whether they are fooled or in the interests, go to such a hole?
Commentary:
The VIP platform of Chinese Hospital Management Association is not a case. In fact, some retired leading cadres are active in similar occasions in different fields in reality. It’s a good thing for individuals to retire, but if it’s the right to retire, it should be vigilant. At the beginning of last year, the media reported that the presidium of Shaanxi Calligraphers Association changed, and the new Calligraphers Association actually included a huge team of more than 60 people, including honorary chairman, chairman, executive vice-chairman, secretary-general, deputy secretary-general, and consultants. In addition to many leaders, among the elected people, there were many retired officials and CPPCC members. This luxury presidium phenomenon, in the view of Song Xiaowu, president of china society of economic reform, has become a very common phenomenon, and this phenomenon, although full of face, is easy to evolve into a disguised way for administrative departments to arrange personnel and curry favor. Apart from the phenomenon of luxurious presidium, even some leaders with low positions began to be laid off and re-employed after their retirement. This was an interview with a reporter in the center of the driver’s test in Jingmen, Hubei Province last May. In Jingmen, if the driver’s license is to pass the annual examination, it is necessary to pay the membership fee of the Drivers’ Association 60 yuan in order to get the certificate of safety study.
Driver:
I haven’t seen any service. I just have to pay every year.
Commentary:
In fact, the Drivers’ Association has a deep relationship with the traffic police detachment, not only working under one roof, but the current president of the Drivers’ Association is the political commissar of the original traffic police detachment, and the Secretary-General used to work in the traffic police detachment.
Reporter:
You also worked in the traffic police force before you retired?
Huang Daochun, Secretary General of Jingmen Motor Vehicle Drivers Association:
Yes.
Reporter:
What was your position in the traffic police force at that time?
Huang Daochun:
I am the section chief of the Propaganda Department, and the rest of us are all retired by the traffic police detachment.
Commentary:
During the two sessions last year, Zhao Fenglou, a deputy to the National People’s Congress, suggested that librarians at a certain level should not be allowed to lead trade associations for several years after retirement, especially those related to essential departments. In fact, some places have begun to come up with relevant regulations. In November 2013, Hunan Provincial Department of Civil Affairs, the Organization Department of the Provincial Party Committee and the Provincial Planning Commission issued a notice on cleaning up and standardizing the management cadres of the provincial party Committee and taking part-time jobs in social organizations, which clearly stipulated that leading cadres of the provincial party and government were not allowed to hold positions in foundations and chambers of commerce of industry associations. In Anhui, the Provincial Discipline Inspection Commission, Organization Department and other five departments jointly issued the Interim Provisions of Anhui Province on strictly controlling and standardizing management, in which leading cadres of party and government organs concurrently hold leadership positions in social organizations, which requires that retired leading cadres should not hold leadership positions in leading organizations funded abroad or overseas, and generally should not hold leadership positions in industry associations, chambers of commerce, industrial and commercial joint social organizations. At present, Shanxi Province is concentrating on cleaning up and standardizing provincial social organizations. The plan for cleaning up and standardizing provincial social organizations in Shanxi Province clearly stipulates that the organization and personnel departments should strictly control the part-time behavior of leading cadres, including retired cadres, and cross-examine and rectify leading cadres, including retired cadres. Those who do not meet the requirements and concurrently hold the leadership positions of associations will be ordered to resign from their concurrently held leadership positions within a time limit. All associations who have reached the age of 70 or have served for more than two terms shall not hold leadership positions in the associations.
Bai Yansong:
Ok, next, I’d like to connect with Professor Wang Yukai from the National School of Administration. Hello, Professor Wang.
Wang Yukai:
Hello, host.
Bai Yansong:
Our civil servant law stipulates that leading cadres who leave can’t work in their own business-related enterprises or profit-making organizations for three years, but others’ associations claim to be non-profit. What’s your suggestion? What kind of system is used to control the acupuncture points of our retired cadres?
Wang Yukai:
I think it is justified for retired cadres to play their role. After they retire, it is perfectly justified to do some public welfare work for the society in some non-profit organizations, but now the problem is that quite a few leading cadres are not completely public welfare organizations after they arrive at this trade association, so my suggestion is that our organization department and personnel department should, in accordance with the authority of cadre management, give stricter norms to leading cadres and put forward some specific requirements, so as to standardize their positions in trade associations.
Bai Yansong:
Ok, thank you very much for your advice. Because a good system is only more detailed and operable, and everyone knows it well, its effect is the best. This can also avoid separating retired cadres who consciously want to gain benefits from those who are fooled by the old reasons, which is actually a kind of protection for many retired cadres. Of course, we also have many regulations now, and there are more and more management of existing civil servants, but this problem really poses a challenge to us. How to manage retired cadres well?
